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Q - Did you buy your first Lab as a pet or as a
breeder?
A - Michael and I bought our first Labrador from a backyard breeder. She chewed on
my shoe laces, so she was the one for us; a yellow female. As an adult, her tail curled over her back,
she was about 4 inches wide between her elbows and had long legs, straight stifles and very little
coat. We loved her. She produced our
first champion.
Q - Which kennels most attracted your attention when you decided to start out? Why?
A - After 10 years of trying to produce the type of Labrador I wanted, I went to
England. In those ten years I had learned a lot. One thing I learned was that I am not a good enough breeder to
take mediocre bitches and breed up from them. I needed a quality bitch with quality dogs behind her. In England I visited many
kennels. When I went to the Ballyduff
kennel, I found what I was looking for. I did everything I could to convince Mrs. Docking that she could count
on me to protect her lines and breed them well. I got third pick from the breeding of Spark of Ballyduff bred to Timspring Sirius. Her name was Ballyduff Lark. In time I placed all my other dogs and
started off fresh with Lark. What an
incredible bitch she was. Why Ballyduff?
For me the type was what I was looking for. Lucky for me the Ballyduff line was also a healthy line.
Q - Have you asked for someone's advice when you
started your kennel? Who was your mentor?
A - In the 10 years before I got Lark, I learned a great deal from many sources. I didn’t have one mentor, I had numerous
ones. I listened and learned. I watched the dogs in the ring and saw what
combinations worked and what didn’t; how other breeders made their decision on
who to breed to whom. I always looked
at the winners and would compare them to my dog. What did they have that my dog
didn’t? The Labrador world was my mentor.
Q - Win in Potomac, the most important show of the breed is the dream of any breeder.
You got it and also Westminster. Can you say something about
this?
A - Winning Best of Breed at the Labrador
Retriever Club of the Potomac is a hallmark win for a breeder. It was for me; it is truly a dream come true.
It is confirmation that you are doing a good job as a breeder; confirmed by
fellow breeders. Winning at
the Garden is very different. You are
taking on the dogs that have been campaigned and are nationally rated. Getting Best of Breed two years in a row was
incredible. Getting a Group 4th two years was, I don’t know how to
describe it. A Labrador has only gotten
a group placement 5 times in 122 years of the Westminster show. To take Group 4th two years was an
honor to the breed. The breed was finally
placed in Group. I was so proud that a
dog I bred represented the breed so well.
Q - What is your opinion
about to show under all rounder judges in all breed shows?
A - There are very few all rounder judges that know what a good Labrador
is. Add to that the number of all
rounder judges who judge the handlers
and not the dogs. All of this makes it
very hard to compete in the all breed ring.
It is depressing at these shows that most breeders who breed the English
style dog don’t enter this type of show unless a breeder judge is judging. I was at one of these shows with a chocolate
bitch. I looked at the other bitches in
my class and thought “Yes, I can win
this class”. I was the only
chocolate. I was placed last. I asked the judge why, and he told me my dog
was an unallowable color!
Q - Can you
name two fundamental books that you have read? What are you
reading now?
A - The two books that I learned the most from are Advanced Labrador Breeding by
Mary Roslin Williams and Dog Locomotion and Gait Analysis by Curtis M.
Brown. Another book and video that I
learned a great deal from is Rachael Paige Elliot’s Dog Steps. I have watched the video over and over and
learn something more each time. The book I am reading right now is Retrievers
and hHow to break them for sport and field trials by Stewart Smith. A very old book given to me by another Labrador breeder.
Q - How old or what time you make your decisions in choosing your puppies? There are some
reasons in terms of structure for choosing this moment for making your
evaluation?
A - The first time I grade my puppies is when they are right around 8 to 9 weeks old. This is a very good time to make a decision
on who is show quality and who isn not. Then I look at them again at 4
months. When they are 4 months old you
can see better what their shoulders are going to be. The next time I look is at
1 year old. I look again for
balance. Of course each time I watch
them play, I am looking at them. I am
always looking at temperament. When I
line breed on my own lines, I find it much easier to grade the puppies. When I bring in another line, I don’t know
how they mature; very scary. I can and
do make more mistakes when evaluating these puppies.
Q - What are the most difficult aspects to forecast when you are selecting a puppy? Which are the points that you can
be sure that they will come how you foresee?
A - In my lines the hardest point to evaluate is turn of stifle. If I don’t have it on an 8 week old puppy, I
won’t ever have it. So, that makes it easy.
When they have it at 8 weeks, they may not, however, keep it. It will take till they are 2-3 years old to
know for sure what they will have.
Drives me crazy.
Q - Which methods do you usually use as a breeding program - linebreeding, inbreeding,
outcrossing?
A - My first choice is linebreeding, second choice is inbreeding and then outcrossing. I only outcross when I have no other
choice. Usually, I don’t like what I get
but sometimes I get a puppy that I think I can build on. A stud that is maybe a ¼ of my lines is what
I like to use best when I feel I have to go out.
Q - When do you
consider a male or a female a true Producer?
A - My definition of a producer is a dog/bitch that can produce healthy, typey puppies
with many different lines. When you see
a dog/bitch bitch in pedigree after pedigree you know that this dog or bitch
was/is a producer.
Q - About the structure quality, which aspects do you
consider to be more difficult to improve and to get fixed in a kennel?
A - Shoulders are something that you work on everytime you do a breeding. We don’t have any really good shouldered dogs
so we have to improve the shoulders by going to the best we can find or at
least a dog that is equal to our bitch’s shoulder so at least we don’t go
backward. The turn of stifle has proven
to be a problem for me. I want the turn
but I also want correct movement. I want
the stifle to open up and the hock to do the same on the move. When you get more stifle then the dog can
use, he doesn’t open up the hock making him sickle hocked. This is
really wrong for a Labrador.
Q - Which was the most
coefficient of inbreeding have you done in your breeding program? Did you get
what you was looking for?
A - The closest breeding I have done was a
brother to a sister. I really didn’t do this breeding, the dogs figured out how
to do this all on their own. It was what we call an
OOPS litter; I was not
happy. A breeding like this does give
you some insight on what your lines can produce. I like to do line breedings. I like to double
on breedings that work well for me. I
like to take sisters who were bred to different stud dogs and breed their
offspring together. I find I get just
what I like most of the time. A second
and third generation breeding is usually very productive.
Q - Could you
mention some countries, besides USA and UK that you consider are making a good
job in the breed?
A - I don’t feel I have the knowledge to answer this question. I have not been to that many
countries. Bu,t from looking on the
internet at breede’rs web sites from around the world, I
know there are good breeders all over the world. I also know that these good breeders in many
countries are just getting to be known in the World of Labradors. Some countries are making so many rules for
breeders to follow that they are hampering
the breeding of quality dogs. I
hope in the future that this will be rectified.
Q - What's the most important changes you can see on
the breed in the past years?
A - In America the dogs are getting too
heavy in bone and substance and many can’t move. We are also seeing longer coat than what is
correct. We need to be careful with our
length of leg; some of our dogs are getting out of balance with too short of
leg. Over the years when some point of the dog needs correction and is talked
about at ring side, within a short period of time, the breeders have corrected
it. Amazing. A number of years ago we had a problem with
low tail set, today you see very few dogs with this problem.
Q - When you
are judging and have to make your final decision, what do you consider to be
most important criteria soundness or Type?
A - When judging a dog show, or when judging my own dogs, the dogs must have type, period. To have breed type you must have balance in
the body, along with head, coat and tail.
Movement comes next. I have seen
judges judge on movement and that is all.
Well I wish they would not judge the Labrador.
If we don’t have breed type we don’t have a Labrador.
Q - What's your
opinion about missing teeth and how important is this aspect in your judgment?
A - I think much too much fuss has been made about missing teeth.
We are a sporting dog; a missing tooth here or there, what does it
matter? Of course, as breeders we have
to be sensible about this. Any bitch we
have with missing teeth should be bred to a dog with full dentition; common
sense . As a judge, I want to see a scissor bite. After that, well, there would
have to be a number of teeth missing to have me penalize the dog for it.
Q - Considering
that you have been showing and judging in others countries, could you mention
the positive and the negative aspects comparing with the USA?
A - I have judged in a number of countries.
Each system has merits and problems.
I like the written reports you have to do in Italy. If done correctly they can be a great
learning tool. In Sweden, I like that
your Best of Breed and your Second to Best of Breed can be the same sex. I like
in my country that we must win majors to get our Championship. This keeps the quality high. In Finland, you grade the dogs and
write a report. I liked this system
also.
Q - What's your
routine kennel mating process, natural or artificial?
A - My dogs are only bred via an AI. I lost my Regal Air and almost lost another
stud dog from infections when doing a natural breeding. I will not take the
chance again. It is also much easier to
collect a dog who has never bred a bitch naturally. Our country being so large, we do a lot of
chilled semen breeding. Our boys have
to be willing to be collected without a bitch in heat nearby.
Q - How many
dogs in average do you have in your kennel?
A - Before I had my kennel help, I would have
around 8 to 10 dogs. Now that I have
kennel help, my numbers have gone up to 15-20 dogs. Maybe some puppies coming up too. I am always
working on keeping my numbers down. I
place all my bitches that I am no longer breeding. I keep only a couple of males, since they
will spend their whole lives with me.
Q - When
planning a breeding, which one of this aspects do you admit to forgive some
fails: type, soundness, pedigree, progeny? Which one do you give more emphasis?
A - When selecting a stud dog for one of my bitches, I look for similar breed
type. I look for a dog whose failings
are different from my bitch’s and are ones I think my bitch will dominate on or
it is a failing I think I can live with.
I will not breed to a dog that has faults. They always show up in the puppies. When I have to do the dreaded outcross
breeding, I must have breed type and I
must have soundness. Pedigree is
important to know about the breed type behind this dog and soundness. I look at progeny to see what he is strong at
producing but will use a dog that I have not seen progeny on. I have found that some lines mix well with my lines and some don’t.
This can be seen in the whelping box. When it doesn’t work, I always
feel so sorry for my bitch. She went through all that effort and we didn’t get a good puppy out of
it. My fault for not picking the right
stud dog for her.
Q - Do you
planning some breeding looking for specifically better males or females
considering the parents?
A – No.
Q - When planning a breeding do you give a particular
emphasis on the sire 's or on the dam's pedigree line? Why
A - What I am looking for is how I think the pedigrees will mix.
Does this dog have a background that will enhance my bitch? Give her
what she needs to have improved and not take anything away from her.
Q - Considering
the structure, which aspects would prevent you from using either a male or
female, no matter how good they were?
A - There are a few things I must have in my dogs.
Pretty face, correct breed type, balance in body and sound
movement. They must carry their tails
right off their toplines. They must have short hocks. Then of course, they must
be healthy. If the tail is carried a bit
high I am OK with that; not happy but OK. If they don’t open their hock all the
way, I can live with that but again not happy.
I won’t use a dog that carries his tail high, doesn’t have nice turn of
stifles, doesn’t have the correct temperament. Will not use a dog with a long coat and lastly will not use a dog with
faults.
Q - Looking back over five years, could you name three dogs that most impressed you:
A - Most impressed me: BISS CH. Borador’s by George. An incredible producer. He left us with a great number of excellent
yellows. My own dog BIS Ch. Beechcroft Study’s Top Secret; an incredible show
dog, too early to tell about his production. And, BISS Ch. Sureshot Hyspire Impressive another excellent
producer. Lobuff Turtle Dove is a beautiful
bitch and a good producer.
Q - Which Labradors impacted more out of you’re own line of Labs?
A - I think as a stud dog BISS Ch. Beechcroft’s Study in Black. He is the first male I have bred that
dominated when bred to. In the show ring
it would be BISS Ch. Beechcroft Study’s Top Secret. In the field, it would have
to be BISS Ch. Beechcroft’s Edgewood
Tomarc. In bitches it would be Ch.
Ballyduff Lark as she gave me the lines. In the ring, Ch. Beechcroft’s Clover
of O’Henry and in the field it would also be Clover.
Q - Which one was the Labrador that you remember the most?
A - That would be Ch. Ballyduff Lark. She
gave me everything I wanted and more then I could hope for. She also loved me as much as I loved her.
Q - You have seen the breed growing for long time in
USA, what do you think that was improved and what wasn’t?
A - We have improved our substance, our bone and our Breed type. We have also
improved on our dogs health. We have
lost on how our neck flows into our shoulders, that really needs to be
fixed. We have to get rid of these
longer coats. And get our dogs carrying their tails down where they belong.
Q - There is anything you would like to add that
you consider important to the breeders know or think about?
A - As a breeder it is so important to love what you are doing, to have a passion
for it. The future of the breed is in your hands, we can’t let these wonderful dogs down.
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